I am now a year and a half out of deep brain surgery and stroke. Fatigue is a deficit that I can not yet escape. My recovery has been excellent except for this fatigue. I HATE it!! I am constantly reading, researching, trying to figure out how to fix it...a mostly fruitless effort. But I never give up HOPE that it will get better. When? How? I have no idea, but the following outlines my latest effort.
I saw an endocrinologist to make sure there are no other medical explanations for the crippling fatigue I deal with daily. It seemed like a good idea because after brain surgery one can never be sure that something else didn't go wrong while they were in there. I also have hypothyroid (onset 4 years ago during my pregnancy) which is often a cause of fatigue, but supposedly my thyroid has remained stable according to my PCP. My opinion is that my thyroid is at least part of my fatigue problem, but I can't be sure. So, I had a full work up with the endocrinologist and there were a few issues identified. According to the tests, my thyroid was within the "normal" range and my blood sugar is low frequently. The doctor changed my thyroid to Armour and doubled the dose despite the "normal range". What do you know? I got two more hours out of the day. Previously I was awake for 4 hours twice a day, now I'm awake about 5 hours twice a day. So I think I'm heading in the right direction. My assessment is that I need more thyroid, and I need to do something about my diet to regulate my blood sugar better. I probably need to eat more frequently. Since my surgery I am less hungry, my body just doesn't seem to send the hungry message, so now I'm trying to eat at least every few hours even when I'm not hungry.
Next, I saw a naturopath. She did an assessment and made a ton of recommendations both dietary and supplements. I went home and started to look up all the supplements and was completely freaked out. I don't like taking any mediation and supplements are even more scary to me since they are not regulated at all. There is no guarantee that what they say is in the bottle is actually in there and sometimes they don't even know the active ingredient so there is no chance of "dosing" the unknown. You can not easily look up interactions, contraindications, adverse reactions, and such like prescription medications. The research on supplements is largely anecdotal and rarely includes double blind, controlled, peer reviewed, published studies. SCARY!!! I like evidence based medicine. But I want to feel better so badly and maybe this stuff just might work, but at what risk? Oh, what to do? I did a quick look up of all the supplements she had recommended and most of them contained ingredients that had the potential to lower the seizure threshold and figuring out which could be blood thinners was close to impossible(anyone with cavernous angiomas must avoid anything that thins blood)..YIKES!! and no thank you! I'm trying to get better not worse. My risk for seizures is high since I have "persistent hemosiderin" "remnants of old blood from my bleeding angioma" (they were not able to remove all of my blood stained brain during my surgery because there was just too much.), and now I also have scar tissue that can create seizures. I am also off anticonvulsants by choice, risk known to me, which puts me at an even greater risk. So anything that can potentate seizures is out for me. To me that is what is frightening about alternative medicine. Some people think, "It's natural...it must be safe." No way!! Supplements can be more dangerous than pharmaceuticals, even though it's pharma that gets a bad rap.
The diet recommendations were a whole other story. The purposed diet was: no dairy, no caffeine, no gluten, no corn, no beans, no white rice, no soy, no nightshades(potato, tomato, etc.), no mushrooms, no eggplant, no carrots, exchange regular sugar for stevia when possible, no soda, and no alcohol. So what's left exactly? Not much. As much as I was less than thrilled with the purposed restrictions...I thought I had to at least give it a try. For one week...I did. I lost 5 lbs that week and felt like I was starving...still completely exhausted. No different in the energy dept.
Needless to say, the whole thing was a waste of time and money. The lady did refund my money for all the scary supplements she recommended, after arguing with me(which was completely annoying to me). Especially since she told me that I was "lucky" she was not charging me for the time that she spent arguing with me on the phone. Please, I already spent $300 on the office visit that was a complete waste I think if you are in the professional business of recommending supplements you should be completely informed of the risks involved. As a nurse, it was my responsibility to make sure that each and every drug, prescription, intervention, was appropriate for my patient. Sometimes the doctors made mistakes and it was my job to make sure the drug, dose, etc. was right for the patient. If you are in healthcare it is your duty and responsibility to not cause harm at the very least. I expect the same level of responsibility and accountability from members of my healthcare team that I provided for my patients and I think it's complete crap when my expectations are not met.
As for my fighting fatigue plan, I'm starting to run out of ideas, but I will never give up hope.
I saw an endocrinologist to make sure there are no other medical explanations for the crippling fatigue I deal with daily. It seemed like a good idea because after brain surgery one can never be sure that something else didn't go wrong while they were in there. I also have hypothyroid (onset 4 years ago during my pregnancy) which is often a cause of fatigue, but supposedly my thyroid has remained stable according to my PCP. My opinion is that my thyroid is at least part of my fatigue problem, but I can't be sure. So, I had a full work up with the endocrinologist and there were a few issues identified. According to the tests, my thyroid was within the "normal" range and my blood sugar is low frequently. The doctor changed my thyroid to Armour and doubled the dose despite the "normal range". What do you know? I got two more hours out of the day. Previously I was awake for 4 hours twice a day, now I'm awake about 5 hours twice a day. So I think I'm heading in the right direction. My assessment is that I need more thyroid, and I need to do something about my diet to regulate my blood sugar better. I probably need to eat more frequently. Since my surgery I am less hungry, my body just doesn't seem to send the hungry message, so now I'm trying to eat at least every few hours even when I'm not hungry.
Next, I saw a naturopath. She did an assessment and made a ton of recommendations both dietary and supplements. I went home and started to look up all the supplements and was completely freaked out. I don't like taking any mediation and supplements are even more scary to me since they are not regulated at all. There is no guarantee that what they say is in the bottle is actually in there and sometimes they don't even know the active ingredient so there is no chance of "dosing" the unknown. You can not easily look up interactions, contraindications, adverse reactions, and such like prescription medications. The research on supplements is largely anecdotal and rarely includes double blind, controlled, peer reviewed, published studies. SCARY!!! I like evidence based medicine. But I want to feel better so badly and maybe this stuff just might work, but at what risk? Oh, what to do? I did a quick look up of all the supplements she had recommended and most of them contained ingredients that had the potential to lower the seizure threshold and figuring out which could be blood thinners was close to impossible(anyone with cavernous angiomas must avoid anything that thins blood)..YIKES!! and no thank you! I'm trying to get better not worse. My risk for seizures is high since I have "persistent hemosiderin" "remnants of old blood from my bleeding angioma" (they were not able to remove all of my blood stained brain during my surgery because there was just too much.), and now I also have scar tissue that can create seizures. I am also off anticonvulsants by choice, risk known to me, which puts me at an even greater risk. So anything that can potentate seizures is out for me. To me that is what is frightening about alternative medicine. Some people think, "It's natural...it must be safe." No way!! Supplements can be more dangerous than pharmaceuticals, even though it's pharma that gets a bad rap.
The diet recommendations were a whole other story. The purposed diet was: no dairy, no caffeine, no gluten, no corn, no beans, no white rice, no soy, no nightshades(potato, tomato, etc.), no mushrooms, no eggplant, no carrots, exchange regular sugar for stevia when possible, no soda, and no alcohol. So what's left exactly? Not much. As much as I was less than thrilled with the purposed restrictions...I thought I had to at least give it a try. For one week...I did. I lost 5 lbs that week and felt like I was starving...still completely exhausted. No different in the energy dept.
Needless to say, the whole thing was a waste of time and money. The lady did refund my money for all the scary supplements she recommended, after arguing with me(which was completely annoying to me). Especially since she told me that I was "lucky" she was not charging me for the time that she spent arguing with me on the phone. Please, I already spent $300 on the office visit that was a complete waste I think if you are in the professional business of recommending supplements you should be completely informed of the risks involved. As a nurse, it was my responsibility to make sure that each and every drug, prescription, intervention, was appropriate for my patient. Sometimes the doctors made mistakes and it was my job to make sure the drug, dose, etc. was right for the patient. If you are in healthcare it is your duty and responsibility to not cause harm at the very least. I expect the same level of responsibility and accountability from members of my healthcare team that I provided for my patients and I think it's complete crap when my expectations are not met.
As for my fighting fatigue plan, I'm starting to run out of ideas, but I will never give up hope.
Thank goodness you are a nurse. Supplements I've considered taking thin the blood. Since I already take blood thinners this could be dangerous. My crushing fatigue didn't start to recede until 2 years after my stroke. I wish someone would study this.
ReplyDelete2 years?? I'm almost there....I hope mine recedes too!! Yes, being a nurse has been a huge advantage the whole time. I couldn't imagine having a major health event without any healthcare knowledge.
ReplyDeleteI would say I had a bigger improvement toward the end of year 3. I am actually feeling not bad now but when I do let myself get exhausted it takes me days to catch up again. (I went camping this past saturday night and still feel like a truck ran over me today tuesday)
ReplyDeleteIt was wise of you to watch the supplements and I can't begin to tell you have impressed I am that you got some money back!!
Maybe the diet would be worth checking things out one at a time instead of sooo many changes? just a thought.
3 Years? Good to know. Over doing it does come with a price..ugh!! I'm trying to figure out what I'm going to do about the diet. I'll probably repost when I figure it out. Take care. :)
DeleteGood for you, Elizabeth! Referring to the naturopath, I mean. I'm the exact same, I research everything before I let it go in a loved one's body.
ReplyDeleteGeeze, I did not realize that your fatigue was that intense. I know it's been a constant source of frustration for you, but I didn't realize you could go only a few hours between naps. Glad that it's 5 hours now, but I do hope that you soon get back to a place that you're content with.
Crystal
Thanks Crystal! I hope all is well with you. Yes, my fatigue has been very limiting and frustrating. I used to have so much energy and now it seems I can't get anything done before I'm exhausted. Sigh. I sure hope it gets better. This is a practice in patience, something that I lack.
DeleteMost people don't know that I nap/lie down almost every day. Fortunately, my kids are old enough that they manage by their own--usually...
ReplyDeleteAre you still taking Keppra? My neuro doc was OK with lowering the dose, almost in half (gradually, of course). I was a zombie on the full dose.
Thanks for your suggestion. I'm currently off Keppra. That was the worst..even when I was awake I felt like a zombie. I'm much better off the Keppra, but still so far from normal.
DeleteHi Elizabeth,
ReplyDeleteI seriously didn't realize the extent of your fatigue & hope in time it will get better, as well as when Jack gets a little older & less dependent. Sigh...the unknowns of the brain...
I applaud you for your poactivity & always researching the meds prescribed by ANY of your providers. It's a necessity, especially given the 'clowns' we unfortunately have to depend upon to advise or write Rx's. ;)
Best wishes always,
Patti
Thanks Patti! Yes, this fatigue has been crazy. I just always expect it to go away and it hasn't. It's really hard to get the amount of sleep that I "need" to be my best. It's especially crazy to me because the rest of my recovery has been excellent.
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